Why Opera doesn’t work with some web sites? Part 1

Today I received a mail from a friend. Some weeks ago, he tried Opera and then contacted me, reporting some problems with the Vodafone web site. I couldn't reproduce them because a personal account was needed.

Today he got back to me, reporting another site, Adecco's. This time, no login was required, so I could dedicate some time to investigate a bit more on what was happening.

The page is the following, from the Adecco italian web site:

http://candidate.adecco.adeccoweb.com/ecit/_General/DataPages/newCandidate/candidatesearchoffers.asp?MenuSelectedLevel1=115&Selected=1

It's just a simple form, with some SELECT controls and submit button ("Cerca…").
The problem is that using Opera the submit button does not work.

So, I fired up the javascript errors window, and I saw:

JavaScript - http://candidate.adecco.adeccoweb.com/ecit/_General/DataPages/newCandidate/candidatesearchoffers.asp?MenuSelectedLevel1=115&Selected=1
Event thread: click
Error:
name: TypeError
message: Statement on line 46: Cannot convert undefined or null to Object
Backtrace:
  Line 46 of inline#2 script in http://candidate.adecco.adeccoweb.com/ecit/_General/DataPages/newCandidate/candidatesearchoffers.asp?MenuSelectedLevel1=115&Selected=1: In function multiple_TypeBusinessLines
    	for(x=0;x<obj.length;x++){
  Line 81 of inline#2 script in http://candidate.adecco.adeccoweb.com/ecit/_General/DataPages/newCandidate/candidatesearchoffers.asp?MenuSelectedLevel1=115&Selected=1: In function cmdSearch_onclick
    		vTypeBusinessLineId= multiple_TypeBusinessLines().join(gCARACTER_SINGLE_SEPARATOR);
  Line 1 of function script 
    cmdSearch_onclick();
  ...
stacktrace: n/a; see 'opera:config#UserPrefs|Exceptions Have Stacktrace'

Ooook. Time to learn Dragonfly a bit more… I fired up Dragonfly, and I dug my way through the innards of this site javascript files. It turned out the "interesting" bits are here (javascript ahead):

http://candidate.adecco.adeccoweb.com/ecit/_includes/jscommonbrowser.js

If you open up this file in your text editor, you will see a getObject() function:

//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
// getObject
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
//	Convierte una cadena con el nombre de un Objeto en la referencia
//	de un objeto. 
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
function getObject(obj) {
	var theObj;
	if (typeof obj == "string") {
		if (oBrowser.ns6 || oBrowser.ie5) {//si es Netscape6 o Explorer 5
			theObj = document.getElementById(obj);
		} else {
			if (oBrowser.ie4) {//si es Explorer 4
				theObj = document.all[obj];
			}
		}
	} else {
		theObj = obj;
	}
	return theObj;
}// getObject

So, what's wrong with this function? Who wrote this probably wrote it some years ago, because it's still testing for MSIE 4.0 or 5.0, or Netscape 6. Well, no wonder it doesn't work for Opera. Maybe it doesn't work for Safari either, nor for Chrome.

Anyway, time to fix this. How? As Hallvord said on dev.opera.com, it's probably a good idea, and this script shows it, to avoid testing for browsers. Let's test the functionality instead. We need getElementById().

What about this revised version:

function getObject(obj) {
  var theObj;
  if (typeof obj == "string") {
    if (document.getElementById)
      theObj = document.getElementById(obj);
    else if (document.all)
      theObj = document.all[obj];
  } else
    theObj = obj;
  return theObj;
}

I reported the problem through the Adecco web site contact form.
Let's hope that someone will consider it…

Main browsers memory usage

Here's the results of a small "experiment" I made today. I wanted to directly compare memory usage of as many different browsers as possible. I understand it's not a really scientific experiment, but I think it shows some interesting results nevertheless.

You can try it too, and report your results if you want.

So I setup this test on my machine, Windows Vista 32 bit, 3 Gb of RAM, a fresh new account and:

  • Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.0.6000.16764
  • Mozilla Firefox 3.0.4
  • Apple Safari 3.2 (WebKit 525.26.13)
  • Google Chrome 1.0.154.43 (WebKit 525.19)
  • Opera 9.63 (Build 10476)
  • Opera 10.00 Alpha (Build 1139)

For every browser, I fired up the same 3 tabs:

I kept every browser opened, but I had to switch between Opera 9.63 and Opera 10 because Chrome doesn't distinguish between the different Opera processes. I guess because both are named opera.exe in the Windows process list. However…

I used the about:memory tab of Chrome to find out the memory usage statistics. However, I could have used the Windows task manager in the same way, or FAR's process list plugin.

Here's the results:

So here we can see that Firefox and then Opera use the least amount of memory, with a few Mbytes of difference. In Firefox 3 Mozilla worked a lot to keep memory usage low and this (basic) results confirm it. Again, not to defend Opera on this, but Opera has Ad Blocker, Speed Dials, Bookmarks+ Sync, a full Email client and what-not already builtin. It would be nice to do another test with Firefox plus the most popular and used extensions…

And now we can compare the situation when we remove Opera 9.63 and add Opera 10,
which is still in alpha stage:

Another impressive result is that Opera 10 uses less memory than every other browser, and at the same time adds support for WebFonts, passes Acid3 with 100/100, has a new Spell Checker… Do you need more? :)

Preparing the new My Opera release

Yes, I'm still at work preparing the release of the next huge My Opera version.
I believe this is My Opera v5.0. I would say codenamed "Revolution" :)
It's been a lot of work, and I'm very proud of the result.

I expect some breakage here and there.
It's been now 7 months of work since last release.
Many new features! Exciting future… Stay tuned.

We've setup a homemade video streaming server (my pc) with a borrowed webcam from Kai. I hope we will be able to stream video of ourselves freaking out tomorrow morning. Well, let's see… :)

The checklist for the release is pretty huge.
Hope I didn't forget anything.

Git crash course

I tried several times to approach this "git" thing :)

Anyway, this morning I read the git crash course, that's probably the best thing if you come from other SCMs.

It doesn't tell you about all these philosophical stories about why git is so much superior about the others and stuff. I just don't care. Give me examples!.

So, this crash course is just about examples and get you started in 5 minutes.

New T-shirt design


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Desktop backgrounds

Usually I'm really busy with $work to do, that sometimes, maybe once every 2 months :-) it's just relaxing to take a break and go searching for some new desktop wallpaper.

I can suggest to take a look at our very own wallpapers here on MyOpera. Recently I found out this site that has a nice collection of space pictures, among my favourites.

This incredible picture of Orion is my current wallpaper.

It's taken from this even more incredible site. Caution: don't open it if you need to do something urgent in the next hours :-)

Dr.Dobb’s Journal and “the Broken Web”


Last week I was invited to a "Webinar" organized by Dr. Dobb's Journal about software engineering, "The Future of Software Delivery", sponsored by IBM. I was curious about this so I registered for the event.

On the registration page, there was a link to test your system to see if it met the technical requirements. So I took the test and, guess what? Only Internet Explorer and Firefox were admitted to the party.

So I wrote an email to the guys:

Subject: Dr. Dobb's Webinar event. Required browsers.
To: webcast@techonline.com
Regarding this event:

http://event.on24.com/eventManager/presentation/html.jsp?profiletype=customHTML1&eventid=25571

I'm using Opera 9.5 and I think it's perfectly fine
for streaming purposes. It runs both RealPlayer and
Windows Media Player.

Is there a reason why Opera shouldn't work for this event?
Thanks!

I was trying to send out the message "Strange. Opera should meet the requirements, because it seems we aren't talking about browser here, only video plugins. Can you explain?". Certainly not something like "You suck. Why isn't Opera your first preferred browser, you morons?"

A few days later I received an email from TechOnline.

Hello Cosimo,

You must use either Internet Explorer with Windows Media Player (preferably) or Firefox with RealPlayer to view the webinar. It will not work with other browsers.

Best Regards,
Lenda

Lenda Carter
TechInsights | TechOnline
lcarter@techinsights.com

Uh… This isn't serious.
Something's rotten in the state of The Web.

Open the Web!

OLPC: Getting Skype to work with video

The most recent Skype version usable is 2.0.0.68 from the Fedora repository.
Follow the instructions at: the OLPC news forum.

The only thing that doesn't work is the video out, that is, when you want to send your webcam video signal out to others with the video call.

I'm working on this by:

  • Modifying the gstfakevideo sources and trying to understand why some ioctls fail
  • Trying to upgrade the linux-uvc module on the XO, by grabbing the kernel sources and compiling linux-uvc.

I will let you know… :)